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103 thoughts on “DITY Move and PPM Calculator

  1. First of all, this is a great tool for everyone to utilize. Ok, so my question is in regards to a PPM move in which i am finding movers to move my household goods from Texas to California. (I know I could just have the Army move it, but decided that I would try to see if I can make a dollar out of this. How do I go about providing actual weight tickets for my move when the moving company is charging me by the cubic feet? I estimated my weight to be about 11000 lbs knowing that for E-7 I am authorized 13000 lbs. This estimate is also based on my last PPM move and the accumulation of “junk” we have acquired throughout the last 5 years. Thanks again.

    1. Thank you! So the first thing I would do is ask the moving company if they provide weight tickets. They may. If not, read pdf page 312 of the JTR, which says:

      E. When Shipment Weight Is Unobtainable. If the HHG or UB shipment weight is unobtainable by the methods in
      par. 5204-B, 5204-C, or 5204-D, the weight is 7 lbs. per cubic foot for all shipments.

      1. I couldn’t find a comment asking a question similar to my situation… my ets is coming up and I’m planning to do a dity move to my home of record, what I’m unsure of is how the paperwork works. I did a dity move a few years ago and you have to submit weight slips on both ends, but when you’ve just separated…how would weight slips on the other end be dealt with? I’ve heard a few people say they just give you a travel voucher up front for your allotted weight and travel distance but haven’t been able to find information confirming that and my chain of command doesn’t seem to know either. I’d like to know before it’s actually time to move so if you have an answer I would be incredibly greatful. Thanks!

        1. Christine,
          Just did this in July…You will mail back the travel voucher and weight tickets when you get home. They should tell you this at your final out with finance.

  2. I’m positive this will not be my only question, but earlier in this thread someone said a single axle trailer can count towards hhg…. So if we are towing our second vehicle behind our moving truck on a single axle tow dolly, we can claim our vehicle weight as well with our hhg? I hope that makes sense.

    1. Unfortunately no, this is what the jtr says:
      C. Not Authorized. HHG do NOT include:
      1. Accompanied personal baggage when carried free on commercial transportation;
      2. Automobiles, trucks, vans and similar motor vehicles;
      .
      .
      .
      However, you can get MALT for the car if a dependent drives it

  3. I am an E-7 that is PCS’ing 250 miles without my family. I spent 1,000 dollars on a rental, gas, and weight tickets. My weight I moved was 6,000 lbs. can you please tell me how much I will be getting back. The calculator said $400 profit which was in no wAy worth loading and unloading myself. Thanks!

    1. Sean,
      When I plugged in similar numbers I get an estimated profit of $2k…Maybe you plugged in 600 lbs instead of 6000?

  4. I just did a move from Quantico, Va to Spotsylvania, Virginia, about 40 miles. I rented a truck for 43 dollars and spent about 30 dollars on weigh tickets. I moved 1436 lbs, my reimbursement for this PPM was 218 dollars….how can this be right when I see verbiage in the publications that says the gov’t will reimburse 95% of what it would cost the gov’t to move me. Don’t know any moving company willing to move that much weight for 218 dollars. Can this be right?

  5. Probably a dumb question but about how long does it take for my advanced travel for my dity move (ppm) to hit my account?

    1. No dumb questions here! Although I am not sure, I’ve never taken an advance but I do know your allowances for the DITY move take a few weeks to hit your account.

  6. We drove a rental truck during our move. It flipped and then was hit by a semi. EVERYTHING was lost and my husband fractured his back. The army is giving us the run around but we were told that our items were insured for 10,000-40,000. Does anyone know where I can get help or who have had experience with an accident during a PPM?

    1. Oh no Brandi! Sorry to hear that! I hope your husband is doing better. I would think this would be treated the same was as if the gov’t moved you and they lost your stuff. In that case I would think you would go through the claims process and should eventually be reimbursed. I will try to see if anyone else on this site has been involved in a similar situation!

    2. On the forms that I have from my military move. Under the claims and liability section, it’s states: you are responsible for preventing a loss and or damage before, during and after the move. Claims will be submitted in accordance with current service regulations. Because self procured move participants are responsible for arranging the entire move, claims for loss and or damage will generally not be paid except in those cases where an act transpires that is beyond your control (vehicle accident, fire, theft, Act of God, Etc) and it is determined that you are free of negligence. I would interpret that as meaning you will need a police report that shows you were not negligent in the accident. If you were found to be not negligent then you are entitled to a maximum liability insurance of $40,000. You would submit your claim through your transportation office on the next installation you were going to. And then bring all documents to finance. Another option you can pursue is the insurance you got with the rental truck if you opted for it. Also you could try using your insurance company that you’re normally insured with such as USAA.

  7. I’m going to preface this by stating I’m kind of an idiot – so I have to ask this question in a dumbed down way. This is not exactly my circumstance but a simplified hypothetical scenario to get to the point: I’m single, I have ten days to travel. So I’m entitaled $142 a day per diem. Making it $1,420 for those 10 days. If I use all ten days but drive at night and sleep in my car during the day to recharge it because it’s a Tesla do I get any of the $1420? Or because I didn’t stay in a hotel and didn’t use any gas do I get nothing?

    Thanks. This is a great website. I hope you make a lot of money with it. You’re truly helping people out.

    1. Christopher, yes you should get all $1420 no matter where you stay. Sounds like you’re about to have one hell of an adventure!

  8. I am very confused by this and its freaking me out. It’s telling me that we are going to lose $580 on this move. We have very little stuff (>1500lbs), one car, and one small moving truck, and it will just be myself and my husband driving each separately. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t reimburse us for everything. Please help.

    Our total allowances come to $2744.83 and our total expenses are $3325.

  9. What does the weight ticket needs to include other than rank, name, weight, type of vehicle? And what makes a weight scale station certified?

    1. Erika,
      It’s important that the weight ticket has the vehicle weight, weigh master’s signature, license plate of your car, date, and scale name and location. You should be able to use most any scale at a truck stop. Most of the required info comes standard on a weight ticket. I usually just look for a CAT scale because they are everywhere and that’s what I’m familiar with. You just don’t want to go to some random scale (like I’ve seen on some bases) that doesn’t have an attendant or any standard form to print off.

  10. is there a time limit to use these benefits? When I first got to my unit I was denied leave to get my belongings.. So after a year of searching for a house I found one and bought it a week ago. I got all my things a few days ago and have the weight tickets and everything.

    1. Richard,
      What usually happens is you submit your weight tickets, travel voucher, and other paperwork to TMO and Finance after you PCS and then you’ll get paid. Sometimes there are special circumstances to allow you to get reimbursed later on…you’d have to ask your Finance or TMO office.

  11. Will this calculator work for a local move? I’ve never done a PPM. I have been living off base and recently got married. Now that I’m eligible for base housing, I’m moving. It will be about 15 miles for the move

    1. Creaturefeature,

      I don’t think you will get paid to do a move unless it is in conjunction with a PCS. I could be wrong, I’d talk to your finance office.

  12. Hello, I have a question pertaining to per diem. We are being allowed 3 days of travel for our partial dity from point a to point b, is the rate 142 total for mil member, then 75% of 142 for spouse then 50% per child? Or no matter how many people you have 142 is total per day . So Sorry if this is confusing. It’s just the calculation on here says roughly 900 for per diem for usfor the 3 days total but finance at our current base says it’s 142 total per day which will make that 426.

  13. If my active husband reports to his new assignment and I go 10 months later does he claim the dla without dependence? Then do when claim the rest when we arrive?

    1. Kmartell,
      Yes. He will get the no-dependent amount after he moves then you will receive the difference between the dependent and no-dependent DLA when you arrive:

      B. Dependent Authorized to Relocate ICW PCS but Delays Travel
      1. When a dependent is authorized to travel but does not move with the member, DLA at the without dependent
      rate may be paid, provided the member is not assigned Gov’t Qtrs at the new PDS.
      2. If the dependent later joins the member and is authorized dependent travel at Gov’t expense, the member
      may be paid the difference between DLA at the with-dependent rate and the without-dependent rate.

  14. I’m confused as to how this calculator works. Why is the “total allowances” lower than allowed DLA? I I thought it would be the sum of DLA+MALT+Per Diem. The calculated “total allowances” is less than half of those combined.

    1. I apologize. There was a bug in the code. I’ve fixed it and it should be working now. Thanks for letting me know!

  15. I recently completed a PPM and I did not get weigh tickets at the place of origin, only at the destination. My service’s requirements are the tickets at place of origin. Is there a way to rectify this? Will I still get reimbursed for the expenses I paid to move myself?

    1. Matt,

      You’ll probably have to work this one out with your TMO office. But here’s what the JTR says:

      6. Establishing HHG Weight
      a. General
      (1) The HHG net weight ordinarily is established with certified weight certificate(s) from a public
      weigh master or Gov’t scales.
      (2) The net weight or the member’s authorized weight allowance, whichever is less, is used to
      determine the constructed cost.
      b. Weight Certificates Are Unobtainable
      (1) Through the Secretarial Process, use of constructed weight may be authorized/approved if the
      HHG net weight cannot be established with certified weight certificates because:
      (a) A public scale or a Gov’t scale was not available; or
      (b) If HHG had been moved commercially, the carrier or contractor would have been paid for the
      move on a basis other than weight.
      (2) Use the constructed weights in par. 5204-E.
      (3) The eligible shipper may be requested to substantiate the reasonableness of the constructed weight
      claimed.
      (4) If the constructed weight is unreasonable, the Service may base reimbursement on a reasonable
      weight

    2. Matt what were your results? Only found out about the new requirement for the Navy re: 3 weight tickets instead of 2 total tickets AFTER I’m packed! Ughh Thanks!

  16. My numbers don’t add up properly. With all the numbers from DLA, MALT, PD and Low End estimate added to my calculator its adds up to $8,266.24. But the total allowances from the PPM calculator came up with $5868.90. Am I not understanding something properly?

    Thanks

  17. We will be pcsing here in a few months. We will have the Uhaul Truck with a tow dolly for my car. Then my daughter will be driving another vehicle and my husband will drive his motorcycle. How may vehicles will I actually get reimbursed for? I know the moving truck isn’t paid for, but what about the fuel for it, and what exactly do I get paid for with the other vehicles? TIA

    1. Mkel1998,

      I’m not sure if a motorcycle is considered a POV. If it’s not you should get reimbursed for driving another vehicle and towing another one (see below). But if it is considered a POV, you’d have to go through the secretarial process to get approved for all three. Do a search for that in the JTR for more info.

      B. POV Transported by Member
      1. An eligible member with dependents who are also relocating incident to the PCS, ordered on a PCS between
      CONUS PDSs, may be authorized transportation for one POV from the old CONUS PDS to the new CONUS
      PDS provided that the:
      a. Member and/or eligible dependent(s) possess more than one POV to be relocated to the new PDS,
      b. Member and dependents then travel at one time in one POV, and
      c. Gov’t’s transportation cost for the POV to be shipped does not exceed the remainder of the MALT Plus
      for driving two POVs to the new PDS (see example, par. 5328).
      2. The member is financially responsible for all excess costs/additional expenses associated with POV
      transportation (pars. 010102 and 010103). If the POV transportation cost exceeds the reimbursement limitation
      the member is financially responsible for the cost difference to transport the POV.
      3. MALT and cost reimbursement are separately authorized for driving the second vehicle.

      5324 MEMBER POSSESSES MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES
      Reimbursement for driving a third (or subsequent) vehicle (when already driving a vehicle and transporting a
      vehicle):
      1. Requires authorization/approval, if determined to be appropriate, to drive the third (or subsequent) vehicle,
      and
      2. Must go through the Secretarial Process IAW par. 5154-B.

      5326 RESTRICTIONS
      A. Unauthorized POV Transportation. A member must not be authorized POV transportation at Gov’t expense if
      the member has:
      1. No dependents,
      2. No dependents eligible for transportation at Gov’t expense, or
      3. No dependents being relocated incident to the PCS.

    1. Gage,
      Possibly, provided you meet the following requirements:

      B. POV Transported by Member

      1. An eligible member with dependents who are also relocating incident to the PCS, ordered on a PCS between
      CONUS PDSs, may be authorized transportation for one POV from the old CONUS PDS to the new CONUS
      PDS provided that the:
      a. Member and/or eligible dependent(s) possess more than one POV to be relocated to the new PDS,
      b. Member and dependents then travel at one time in one POV, and
      c. Gov’t’s transportation cost for the POV to be shipped does not exceed the remainder of the MALT Plus
      for driving two POVs to the new PDS (see example, par. 5328).
      2. The member is financially responsible for all excess costs/additional expenses associated with POV
      transportation (pars. 010102 and 010103). If the POV transportation cost exceeds the reimbursement limitation
      the member is financially responsible for the cost difference to transport the POV.
      3. MALT and cost reimbursement are separately authorized for driving the second vehicle

      A. Unauthorized POV Transportation.

      A member must not be authorized POV transportation at Gov’t expense if the member has:
      1. No dependents,
      2. No dependents eligible for transportation at Gov’t expense, or
      3. No dependents being relocated incident to the PCS.

  18. Fabulous resource!

    What partions are applicable for a service member who is geo-batching a PCS wherein doing a partial-dity with POV only). Is it DLA + per diem + MALT?

    1. Thanks! In that case you should still get DLA, per diem, MALT, and HHG reimbursement for whatever you move in your car, even if your family is living somewhere else.

  19. We are moving to our first assignment in a month. Are we paid a certain amount/day for food & hotel or do they just pay back what we spent on hotel based on receipts? If we stay with friends along the way will we still be reimbursed for “hotel” stay? Thanks!

    1. Rachael,
      Yes each service member and dependent will get a certain amount of per diem for each travel day which covers food and lodging. You get this regardless if you actually use it, so if you stay with friends you can pocket the extra money!

  20. If my wife and I are both service members do we each get per diem? For example, we are traveling from JBLM to Fort Bragg. We are allowed 9 travel days. Can we each use 8 hotel stays then, equaling 16? We want to travel longer and want to know if we will at least be able to have the hotels covered. I understand the food will only be for the 9 days and gas will only cover the miles they say it takes to get to Bragg,

    1. Yes definitely! The per diem is the “standard flat rate per diem” which includes lodging, food, and incidentals. It’s currently $142 per military member per travel day.

  21. We received $3636.33 before our dity move. I’m so confused on the numbers we will get back. Maybe you can help. Husband is a E-9 3 dependents 15k pounds with 3 days allowance from N.C to LA (983) miles.

    1. If you received some of your allowance up front, then you will receive the total allowances this calculator gives you minus what you received up front. I’m not sure what percentage you received so it’s hard to say how much more you’ll get at the end of the move.

      1. My hubs said we received 50% of the dity move. Taking that the weight would be right at 15k. We did not receive any DLA/PER DIEM money BC we used about 800.00 on govt C.C. for lodging and food. Was told we’ll get the rest back after he turns in his receipts.

        1. The payment you receive up front is based off the “low end estimate” so the 50% is only part of the low end estimate not your full 15k pounds. Once you turn in your official weight tickets that show the weight before loaded and after they will then submit a final claim and pay you the rest. Sponsor for us is E7 with 4 dependents and our max pounds is 13k. Our low end estimate is $3,900.00 we received 70% of that up front. Our high end estimate is $9750.00 for 13k pounds. We will receive any difference after we turn in weigh tickets. Hope this helps.

  22. I just want to say THANK YOU so much for this website! I wish it would’ve been around for all of my career, however, it has certainly been useful for our family’s last and final retirement PCS. I will definitely recommend to all of my military friends. Keep up the good work 😉

  23. Hi,

    I filled the basic information ( grade, #s of dependents , miles traveling , #os of POVs, but w/o weight and expenses )
    And I got DLA , MALT and Per Diem amount

    Shouldn’t those amount add up in ” EST. Profit” box ?

    Thanks for response

      1. It was showing something else, amounts showed is EST profit didn’t add up DLA, MALT and per Diem.

        I am confused regarding Reimbursement for weight & expenses for PPM
        Is that separate pay or is it part of DLA,MALT and PER diem ?
        What I mean is : IF I am getting 2000$ DLA, 500 MALT , 1200 Per diem
        and I am going to be moving 1000lbs( with Expenses of renting Uhal, gas and toll )
        IS that Expense going to be covered from DLA,MALT and PER diem
        Or will I be reimbursed for rental expense and I will get paid for moving weight on top of DLA,MALT and PER diem ?

        1. You will get a separate payment for moving your household goods (HHG). You won’t get directly reimbursed for the Uhaul or gas but hopefully you get enough total allowances to pay for it.

          1. Is the following calculation correct :
            If one is doing PPM move:
            Say weight reimburse by TMO is 1$/lb
            moving : 1500 lbs
            Gov cost : 1500$
            so you are entitled 95% of that ,ie 1425 $
            Now your expense : Rent uhal (500) gas (500)
            Your profit from PPM move ALONE is 1000( expenses ) + 318.75 ( taking 25% of 425) = 1318.75$

            And on a separate side, One will get per diem , MALT and DLA ?

  24. Hello, I have a question. I separated from the military in March 2017. Drove my own car from Portsmouth, VA to Seattle, WA. I had about 700 lbs. of personal belongings in my car. I was paid $649.88. Does that sound correct to you?

    Thanks.

    1. That sounds about right for the HHG. You should have received MALT (~$500) and per diem (~$1200) as well. Usually those are deposited into your account as a separate payment. Did you get those? If not I would ask TMO to give you a breakdown of what you got paid. You should have at least got $1900 from MALT, HHG, and per diem when all is said and done.

      1. I called HHG and they told me the $649 is the right amount. Who would I call to ask about per diem? And what is TMO?

        Thank you.

        1. TMO is travel management office. Yours might be called something different depending on what branch you were in. I would call your finance office as I believe per diem is handled through them. Check your bank account to see if you received another deposit though first.

  25. Dumb question. Does the estimated profit include DLA, PD and MALT or is it just what the GOV will pay for your DITY? I hope that make sense. Thanks

  26. Hey man, Great site! I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on the defense travel website. Do you know if you can claim TLE during your PTDY period if you have hotel receipts?

    1. Yes absolutely. You can get up to 10 days reimbursed as long as you have the receipt and a letter of non-availability if staying off-base.

  27. So we just met with the transportation office and they said truck rental isn’t covered (which is totally bs).. So for us we’re moving from Ft.McCoy, WI to Peterson AFB, CO (1035 miles) with 17,000 lbs and I’m still confused on the numbers. Will we be able to make a decent amount off this move or with how much we have should we allow movers to move us? I’m confused on all the numbers.

    1. Michealle, if you plug in the cost of your rental truck in the expenses as well as all the other info the estimated profit should be pretty close. What is your weight allowance?

          1. Make sure when you fill out the numbers on the calculator that you put in your cost of the truck your renting (unless your using your own truck/trailer). I would think you should make a good amount with that much weight.

    2. Michealle – the trans office is absolutely correct, the truck rental is not part of what you get paid for (or reimbursed for). What you do get paid for is the weight of your HHG inside the truck. The cost of the truck is on you to pay for which is well worth it in the end. One little known fact; in the JTR (joint travel regulation) you can tow trailers should you have a truck. To sweeten the pot, a single axel trailer is considered HHG and it’s weight is counted towards your HHG weight. If you have a dual axel trailer, this does not apply.

  28. This is a great site and is much more helpful than my local TMO. Thanks for putting this together and keeping it updated!

    1. Unfortunately no. Recreational Vehicles (to include a camper, camping trailer , 5th wheel camper or self- propelled recreational
      vehicle) are not considered as HHG so you can’t get reimbursed for moving them.

  29. So we’re getting ready to move in a few months and we’re not sure if we want to do a DITY this time (our last move we lost so much due to hot hands movers). So our new duty station is about 845 miles away and my husband is a 04. We do have 3 kids and a ton of stuff. with that being said we’re thinking of doing a ABF move.. has anybody ever done that? i was told we can claim that for a DITY but was hoping to hear if anybody here has. also do you really make more with DITY then partial DITY?

    1. Lauren,

      I don’t know anyone who has used ABF but I don’t see why you couldn’t use them. You would just have to see how much they will charge and decide if you will make enough money (using this calculator) to cover the costs. A partial DITY just means that you only move some of your stuff while the Air Force (or whatever branch) moves the rest. That being said, the more weight you move yourself, the more money you could potentially make.

    2. We used ABF for a full PPM once and claimed the cost successfully. Regardless of how your stuff gets from point A to B you’ll get paid the same amount. The more you spend on authorized expenses, the less you pay taxes on of that amount. But, the more you spend, the less you get to keep. The ABF trailer cost us about $4000 to go half way across country, plus another $500 or so in other materials. I was reimbursed from the Army about $5300 so I really only got to keep (and pay taxes on) about $800. If I had used a rented truck instead for $1500 and spent another $500 on gas my total expenses would have been $2500 and reimbursement would have been the same so I could have kept $2800. One thing about ABF, their trailers are for cargo so no soft ride suspension like you find in an actual moving trailer. We also had the trailer show up, still locked, with many of our more expensive items missing and obvious signs that someone had rifled through our things. The company provided the lock. Insurance didn’t come close to covering the loss and we lost way more in HHG value than we ever could have made by moving ourselves. If you’re going to spend most of your ppm money just to get your stuff moved, just have the pros do it.

  30. we already received about 4000 for malt/dla before we moved. is it still possible to get back 4k for our partial ppm with 1200 nontaxable expenses on our 5100lb.

    1. If you are asking if you could receive another $4k from moving 5100 lbs of stuff it’s definitely possible. I would estimate somewhere around there.

      1. Do you know what the difference of income between full and partial dity might be for an E7? We are trying to figure out if a full dity will make us much more $

        1. Sam,

          It all depends on how much stuff you can fit in your car. If you estimate $1/lb and you take 500 lbs of stuff in your car and the mover takes the rest, you would make around $500 for moving the HHG. Does that make sense?

  31. what should I figure as a rough estimate that I will get back?
    High / low figure or estimated profit figure?

    I dont know which one is important and why. …. what’s the difference between the h/l and estimated profit.

    trying to inter in all my info and see what I might get back.

    1. I would figure halfway between the high/low figures for a rough estimate. I would love to be able to provide an accurate estimate but there’s so many variables the DoD uses in calculating reimbursement rates and the market changes so frequently that it’s almost impossible.

  32. How long do I have before it’s too late to turn in the weigh ticket? Unfortunately, they didn’t sign it the first time and I wasn’t able to get back to that weigh station until 2 years later. Is it still possible to get paid?

    1. There are many variables to figure out exactly how much you’ll get for moving your own stuff. Things like time of year and how much the gov’t is willing to pay a commercial carrier are two big variables. The high and low estimates provide a general range of what you may receive. I wish I could get it more accurate but it changes so often it’s almost impossible.

    1. Well, DLA isn’t allowed for a separation PCS, but I believe MALT is.
      Maybe you could add a check box for whether it is a separation PCS or not?

    2. Thanks! Interesting question. You won’t receive DLA when separating…However, if you are separating under honorable conditions and not receiving separation pay you will receive travel allowances (which includes MALT I believe, and HHG) from the last duty station to the home of record (HOR) or place where you entered active duty (PLEAD), whichever is greater. Check out section 5004 in the Joint Travel Regulations (http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/Docs/perdiem/JTR.pdf) to make sure I’m not misreading something!

  33. I think another good idea to post on here is how to properly use TLE when moving. I”m digging in the regulations and talking to finance but I’m pretty sure that you get both lodging and Meals for your locality that you are using the TLE (10 days on the front/back end). Any light you can shed on this would be great for everyone. Excellent site and thank you for being selfless and taking the time to assist others in the various services.

    1. Thank you…I will definitely write a blog post on TLE – I agree it would be beneficial. Glad you found the site helpful!

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